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Official transcript (Serial No. 119-44) of the House Oversight Committee's Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets hearing on UAP, 9 September 2025, chaired by Rep. Anna Paulina Luna. Witnesses: George Knapp, Jeffrey Nuccetelli, Chief Alexandro Wiggins, Dylan Borland and Joe Spielberger. Rep. Eric Burlison plays a whistleblower video of an MQ-9 firing a Hellfire missile at an orb off Yemen, 30 October 2024 (p.32).
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The only thing hotter than that Hellfire was the committee's agenda on 9 Sep 2025.
- House hearing transcript, U.S. Congress, 9 Sep 2025, Washington D.C.
- Discusses UAP transparency, whistleblower protection, and critiques AARO and DoD cooperation.
- No official conclusion in the file
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RESTORING PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH
UAP TRANSPARENCY AND
WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION
HEARING
BEFORE THE
TASK FORCE ON THE DECLASSIFICATION
OF FEDERAL SECRETS
OF THE
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND
GOVERNMENT REFORM
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
SEPTEMBER 9, 2025
Serial No. 119–44
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COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM
JAMES COMER, Kentucky, Chairman
JIM JORDAN, Ohio
MIKE TURNER, Ohio
PAUL GOSAR, Arizona
VIRGINIA FOXX, North Carolina
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin
MICHAEL CLOUD, Texas
GARY PALMER, Alabama
CLAY HIGGINS, Louisiana
PETE SESSIONS, Texas
ANDY BIGGS, Arizona
NANCY MACE, South Carolina
PAT FALLON, Texas
BYRON DONALDS, Florida
SCOTT PERRY, Pennsylvania
WILLIAM TIMMONS, South Carolina
TIM BURCHETT, Tennessee
MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE, Georgia
LAUREN BOEBERT, Colorado
ANNA PAULINA LUNA, Florida
NICK LANGWORTHY, New York
ERIC BURLISON, Missouri
ELI CRANE, Arizona
BRIAN JACK, Georgia
JOHN MCGUIRE, Virginia
BRANDON GILL, Texas
ROBERT GARCIA, California, Ranking Minority
Member
ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of
Columbia
STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts
RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI, Illinois
RO KHANNA, California
KWEISI MFUME, Maryland
SHONTEL BROWN, Ohio
MELANIE STANSBURY, New Mexico
MAXWELL FROST, Florida
SUMMER LEE, Pennsylvania
GREG CASAR, Texas
JASMINE CROCKETT, Texas
EMILY RANDALL, Washington
SUHAS SUBRAMANYAM, Virginia
YASSAMIN ANSARI, Arizona
WESLEY BELL, Missouri
LATEEFAH SIMON, California
DAVE MIN, California
AYANNA PRESSLEY, Massachusetts
RASHIDA TLAIB, Michigan
Vacancy
MARK MARIN, Staff Director
JAMES RUST, Deputy Staff Director
MITCH BENZINE, General Counsel
RYAN GIACHETTI, Deputy General Counsel and Parliamentarian
KAITY WOLFE, Deputy Director for Oversight
GRAYSON WESTMORELAND, Senior Professional Staff Member
MALLORY COGAR, Deputy Director of Operations and Chief Clerk
CONTACT NUMBER: 202–225–5074
ROBERT EDMONSON, Minority Staff Director
CONTACT NUMBER: 202–225–5051
TASK FORCE ON THE DECLASSIFICATION OF FEDERAL SECRETS
ANNA PAULINA LUNA, Florida, Chairwoman
NANCY MACE, South Carolina
TIM BURCHETT, Tennessee
LAUREN BOEBERT, Colorado
ERIC BURLISON, Missouri
ELI CRANE, Arizona
BRANDON GILL, Texas
JASMINE CROCKETT, Texas, Ranking Member
RAJA KRISHNAMOORTHI, Illinois
SUMMER LEE, Pennsylvania
DAVE MIN, California
Vacancy
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OPENING STATEMENTS
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Hon. Anna Paulina Luna, U.S. Representative, Chairwoman .............................
Hon. Jasmine Crockett, U.S. Representative, Ranking Member .........................
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WITNESSES
Mr. Jeffrey Nuccetelli, U.S. Air Force Veteran
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................
Chief Alexandro Wiggins, U.S. Navy
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................
Mr. George Knapp, UAP Journalist
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................
Mr. Dylan Borland, UAP Witness, U.S. Air Force Veteran
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................
Mr. Joe Spielberger (Minority Witness), Senior Policy Counsel, Project on
Government Oversight
Oral Statement ........................................................................................................
Written opening statements and bios are available on the U.S. House of
Representatives Document Repository at: docs.house.gov.
INDEX OF DOCUMENTS
* Letter to SECDEF Regarding Major David Charles Grusch Reprisal;
submitted by Rep. Crane.
* Article, NYT, ‘‘DOGE Put Critical Social Security Data at Risk, WhistleBlower Says’’; submitted by Rep. Lee.
The documents listed above are available at: docs.house.gov.
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RESTORING PUBLIC TRUST THROUGH
UAP TRANSPARENCY AND
WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 9, 2025
U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM
TASK FORCE ON THE DECLASSIFICATION OF FEDERAL SECRETS
Washington, D.C.
The Task Force met, pursuant to notice, at 10:05 a.m., Room
HVC–210, U.S. Capitol Visitor Center, Hon. Anna Luna, [Chairwoman of the Task Force] presiding.
Present: Representatives Luna, Mace, Burchett, Boebert,
Burlison, Crane, Gill, Crockett, and Lee.
Also present: Representatives Biggs, Begich, Ogles, Perry,
Grothman, Titus, and Moskowitz.
Mrs. LUNA. This hearing of the Task Force on Declassification of
Federal Secrets will come to order.
Welcome, everyone. Without objection, the Chair may declare a
recess at any time. Additionally, without any objection, the following members are waived onto the Task Force for the purpose of
questioning witnesses at today’s hearing: Representative Biggs of
Arizona, Representative Begich of Alaska, Representative Ogles of
Tennessee, Representative Titus of Nevada, and Representative
Moskowitz of Florida. There are no objections.
I recognize myself for the purpose of making an opening statement.
OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIRWOMAN ANNA PAULINA LUNA
REPRESENTATIVE FROM FLORIDA
Mrs. LUNA. Good morning, and welcome to the hearing regarding
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) disclosures. For too
long, the issue of unidentified anomalous phenomena, commonly
known as UAPs, has been shrouded in secrecy, stigma, and in some
cases outright dismissal. Today, I want to state clearly that this is
not science fiction or creating speculation. This is about national
security, government accountability, and the American people’s
right to the truth.
I have spoken now to a number of whistleblowers from the military to include the infamous Eglin Air Force Base incident that occurred when myself and former Representative Matt Gates, as well
as Representative Burchett, followed up on a lead from multiple active duty Air Force pilot whistleblowers that alleged that the
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United States Air Force was covering up UAP activity at Eglin Air
Force Base.
We have heard from a number of whistleblowers, specifically
military pilots, that the reason for not coming forward publicly is
out of fear that speaking out would cost them their flight status
and potentially their careers. This is unacceptable. We cannot protect our airspaces if our best trained observers are silenced. We
cannot advance science if we refuse to ask questions. And we cannot maintain trust in government if we keep the American people
in the dark.
Now, Congress has tried to fix this problem. Congress tried to
create formal channels through the All-domain Anomaly Resolution
Office, also known as AARO, and the intelligence community inspector general for servicemembers and officials to make disclosures. But the reality, the reports come in are too often brushed
aside, slow-walked, or met with skepticism rather than serious investigation.
Recently, the former AARO director known as Sean Kirkpatrick
attacked our witnesses and members on this Committee. It should
be noted that he is a documented liar and brings into question
what his purpose at AARO really was if it was not to followup on
investigations and disclose his findings to Members of Congress.
A former deputy assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence,
Chris Mellon, described a report published by AARO that found no
evidence that any USG investigation, academic-sponsored research,
or official review panel has confirmed any sighting of UAP represented extraterrestrial technology as the most error-ridden and
unsatisfactory government report I can recall reading after decades
of government service.
Mellon further noted that this was a first AARO report submitted to Congress without the director of national intelligence’s
sign-off and seemingly excluded input from any scholars or experts
who have studied or written extensively about this topic, as would
normally be in any other case in this field.
Mellon determined that this report failed to fulfill the congressional mandate under which it was required, omitted entire agencies with known investigations or activities related to UAPs, and
omitted any discussion of efforts to hide classified or unclassified
information about UAPs. Such efforts were unaddressed by the report, despite the existence of agency records and investigations concurring with them, including those at U.S. Customs and Border
Protection. If we set up offices and oversight bodies only to let
them become graveyards for testimony or, worse yet, ruses for pretending to investigate when in actuality there was no followup,
then we are not doing our jobs.
In recent months, Congress has also been presented with evidence that points to technologies that to our knowledge are beyond
our current capabilities. It is our duty as elected representatives to
follow the facts wherever they lead and to ensure that those facts
are not buried under classification stamps or bureaucratic excuses.
Let me be clear. Whether UAPs represent adversarial technology,
natural phenomena, or something beyond current human understanding, Congress has a responsibility to investigate. If these objects are foreign in origin, then they pose a direct threat to our na-
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tional security. And if they represent something unknown, they demand rigorous scientific inquiry—not ridicule, not secrecy, and not
silence.
The stakes are very high. Adversarial nations are not waiting for
us to catch up. They are studying these phenomena aggressively,
as multiple nations have also announced their own parliamentary
investigations into this very topic. If we are to continue to hide information from ourselves, we risk strategic surprise. If we continue
to ignore our pilots and servicemembers, as well as countless government whistleblowers, we risk losing their trust. And if we continue to shield the truth from the public, we risk eroding the very
foundation of democratic accountability.
This is why this hearing matters. This is not about fueling speculation. This is about demanding the basic transparency from the
Department of Defense and the intelligence community and other
military contractors. It is about asking the questions every American has the right to ask. What do we know? What do we not
know? And why in a free society are we being told so little?
A major barrier to this Committee’s inquiry into UAPs has been
the lack of cooperation and transparency from the Department of
Defense and the intelligence community. In preparation for previous UAP hearings, the Committee repeatedly asked the Department of Defense to allow members to view videos and files related
to UAP incidences.
Unfortunately, the Department of Defense notified the Committee staff that, due to the Department’s special access program
rules, only members of the House Armed Services Committee, as
well as the Defense Subcommittee on House Appropriations, also
known as HAC-D, were allowed to be read in onto such programs.
For a non-committee member to be allowed to view these documents and videos, individual members must be approved by the
Chairman and Ranking Member of both HASC and HAC-D.
Independent staff oversight has presented a consistent problem
for Congress, as well as program budgets are classified. Additionally, oversight reporting to Congress is classified and only provided
to the authorizing and Appropriations Committees of jurisdiction.
The American people are not fragile. They do not need to be
shielded like children from reality. What they cannot tolerate and
what they will not forgive is a government that withholds the truth
and punishes those who dare to speak up.
I want to close with this. Future generations will look back at
this moment and ask what we did when presented with the unknown. Did we look away, embarrassed or afraid, or did we pursue
the truth with courage? I intend to be on the side of truth, transparency, and accountability, and I hope my colleagues on this Task
Force will be able to do the same.
To quote a few elected officials, Senator Schumer has stated multiple credible sources allege a constitutional crisis over Unidentified
flying objects (UFO)s. Senator Rounds has stated that these are
brilliant individuals, and they are not making this stuff up. And
our current Secretary of State, Marco Rubio, has stated very high
clearances and high positions within our government in regards to
these whistleblowers. Senator McConnell also described these whistleblowers as sane and credible.
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And the witnesses today are not alone. In fact, they are far from
it. In fact, 34 senior military government and intelligent officials
have broken their silence. This includes Senator, now Secretary of
State Marco Rubio, Senator Rounds, Senator Gillibrand, General
Jim Clapper, the former director of the government’s UAP Task
Force, the former head of aviation security for the White House
National Security Council, the former Secretary of Defense, and
many more.
Again, to quote Secretary of State Rubio in an upcoming documentary known as The Age of Disclosure, even Presidents have
been operating on a need-to-know basis that begins to spin out of
control. And to quote Senator Gillibrand, who also went public in
this documentary, ‘‘It is not acceptable to have secret parts of this
government that no one ever sees.’’ It is time for the fundamental
truths of UAP to be revealed to our Nation’s leaders and the public.
It is time for this government to exercise transparency.
Mrs. LUNA. And with that, I yield to Ranking Member Crockett
for the opening statement.
OPENING STATEMENT OF RANKING MEMBER
JASMINE CROCKETT, REPRESENTATIVE FROM TEXAS
Ms. CROCKETT. Thank you so much, Madam Chair.
At a time of increasing distrust in government, it is important
for Congress to take action to restore the government’s credibility.
Bringing transparency to an issue of great public interest is a step
toward doing just that, so I thank Chairwoman Luna for calling
this bipartisan hearing to discuss unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP, which is today’s term for what was commonly
known as UFOs, unidentified flying objects. And while some people
think of flying saucers when they hear these terms, it is vital that
we focus on the real-world impact of UAPs on critical infrastructure, civilian safety, and national security.
There is good reason to believe that most UAPs have origins far
closer to home. Currently, NASA has not found any evidence that
any UAPs have an extraterrestrial origin. Our adversaries are
working to develop new capabilities to gain military advantages,
and those efforts are a likely explanation for the mysteries that we
have observed.
Nevertheless, the Federal Government has a responsibility to the
American people to investigate and provide transparent disclosures
about every incident. The Federal Government is equally obligated
to protect those who report what they have seen, especially to commanding officers and supervisors. And Congress should do everything in its power to protect whistleblowers and conduct oversight
of agencies that are failing to provide that protection. Democracy
depends on transparency, and transparency often relies on the
courage of individuals willing to risk their careers, reputations, and
in some cases their personal safety to tell the truth.
So, I look forward to hearing from the witnesses today. We
should welcome their accounts and acknowledge the bravery they
have shown to come before us. We must ensure that all whistleblowers feel that they can come to Congress to tell their stories
without fear of retaliation or professional consequences.
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We need transparency not just to make better policy, but also to
ensure that information flows between all those who need it. There
are too many tragic examples in our history where information
lapses and a lack of cross-agency coordination led to disaster. Just
this year, failure to communicate between FAA and the Department of Defense led to tragedy over the Potomac.
The Biden-Harris Administration sought to eliminate some of
these lapses when it established the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office at the Department of Defense. AARO can convene
sources from all branches of military, the FAA, and NASA to combine forces to create a comprehensive picture of what is happening
in our skies. Some UAP reports have perfectly normal explanations—satellites, consumer drones, weather balloons, even
pranks—but we need to track down each and every single UAP.
The United States has millions of eyes in the sky, both electronic
and human, but only the combination of civilian, commercial, and
military sources can begin to create a complete picture. So, we need
to ensure that people can come forward and report what they have
seen to the relevant authorities, and they have to have the right
to do so without fear of retaliation.
This country has a history of dedicated public servants standing
up for what is right, even in the face of potential consequences.
From the Pentagon Papers to Watergate to torture programs, whistleblowers have not only informed the public but also empowered
Congress to fulfill its constitutional duty of oversight. Past Congresses have written laws to grant legal protection for whistleblowers, and it is up to us to work responsibly with all sources to
hold the executive branch accountable.
We are here today to listen to the stories of those who have witnessed events of interest to the American people and to support the
policies that cultivate an environment that welcomes and protects
whistleblowers. I hope this hearing will be an example of the respect and protection whistleblowers deserve and the importance of
conducting oversight of the Federal Government.
I yield back.
Mrs. LUNA. I am pleased to welcome the panel of witnesses for
today’s hearing. I would first like to welcome Mr. Jeffrey
Nuccetelli. He is a United States Air Force veteran and a career
Federal employee with more than 20 years of experience in national security, law enforcement, and public administration.
Next, we have Mr. Alexandro Wiggins. Mr. Wiggins is currently
serving as a senior chief operations specialist in the United States
Navy. Mr. Wiggins is testifying in his personal capacity today and
not on behalf of the United States Navy.
Next, I would like to recognize a gentlewoman from Nevada, Representative Titus.
Ms. TITUS. Thank you very much, Madam Chairman, Ranking
Member, for allowing me to sit with you on this panel today.
I am honored to be able to introduce a witness here who is from
my district, George Knapp, who has been the definitive expert and
reporter on this topic that you are exploring today, UAPs or UFOs.
George is a longtime friend, I would say that up front, but a very
respected journalist and a recognized expert in this field nationally
and internationally.
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Just a little something about George, he came to Las Vegas in
1979 and joined KLAS television station as a general assignment
reporter in 1981. Since 1995, he has been the chief investigative reporter for that channel. He also hosts a national radio show you
can listen to on Coast to Coast AM, which covers many of the paranormal topics that you all are discussing.
Over the years, George has been, as I said, recognized for his
work. He has been honored with the Peabody Award, the DuPont
Award, the Edward Murrow Award, and 27 different regional
Emmys for his investigative reporting. Indeed, he has told Nevada’s story with clarity, with objectivity, and with integrity, so I
know that his testimony today is going to be of great interest and
value to this Committee. So, thank you very much.
Mrs. LUNA. Next, we have Mr. Dylan Borland. Mr. Borland is a
United States Air Force veteran and has a long career in Federal
service.
And finally, I would like to introduce Mr. Joe Spielberger, senior
policy counsel at the Project On Government Oversight.
Pursuant to committee rule IX(g), the witnesses will please stand
and raise their right hand.
[Witnesses sworn.]
Mrs. LUNA. Let the record show that the witnesses answered in
the affirmative.
Thank you. You may take your seat.
We appreciate you being here today, and I look forward to hearing your testimony. Let me remind the witnesses that we have
read your written statements, and it will appear in full in the hearing record. Please limit your oral statements to 5 minutes, but I
understand you have a lot to get through, so if it goes a little over,
do not worry about it.
As a reminder, please press the button on the microphone in
front of you so that it is on and the Members can hear you. When
you begin to speak, the light in front of you will turn green. After
4 minutes, the light will turn yellow, and when the red light comes
on, your 5 minutes have expired, and we will ask you to please
wrap it up.
I now recognize Mr. Nuccetelli for his opening statement.
STATEMENT OF JEFFREY NUCCETELLI
U.S. AIR FORCE VETERAN
Mr. NUCCETELLI. Good morning. Thank you, Chairwoman Luna,
Ranking Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force, for
giving us the opportunity to testify today.
My name is Jeffrey Nuccetelli. I am a former military police officer with 16 years of active-duty service in the U.S. Air Force. I am
here today because the American people have both the right and
the responsibility to know the truth about unidentified aerial phenomenon. That truth remains hidden, classified and silenced by
fear, retaliation, stigma, and confusion. Today, we are here to help
break that silence.
Between 2003 and 2005, five UAP incidents occurred at Vandenberg Air Force Base, home to the National Missile Defense Project,
a top national security priority. At the time, we were conducting
launches deemed by the National Reconnaissance Office as the
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most important in 25 years. These were historic launches. These
facilities were vital, and they were repeatedly visited by UAP. Each
incident was witnessed by multiple personnel, documented, investigated, and reported up the chain of command. We sent information up, but we got no guidance down on how to handle these
events.
I personally witnessed one of these events and investigated others as they occurred. Six other servicemembers have provided me
with the information that I will share with you today.
The incursions began on October 14, 2003, when Boeing contractors reported a massive glowing red square silently hovering over
two missile defense sites. After several minutes, it drifted further
east onto the base and vanished over the hills. This event, now
known as the Vandenberg red square, was referenced by Representative Luna at the first hearing on this topic. Official Air
Force records of this event are in possession by AARO and the FBI.
Later that night, while I was on duty, security guards at a critical launch site reported a bright, fast-moving object over the
ocean. I responded to the incident. Chaos ensued over the radio as
the object approached rapidly. I heard my friends screaming, ‘‘It is
coming right at us, it is coming right for us, and now it is right
here.’’ Moments later, I heard them say that it had shot off and
was gone. When I arrived on scene, I talked to five shaken witnesses who described a massive triangular craft larger than a football field that hovered silently for about 45 seconds over their entry
control point before shooting away at impossible speed.
About a week later, another patrol reported a light over the
ocean behaving erratically. Believing it might be an unannounced
aircraft, they declared an emergency, and an armed response force
responded. Before the forces could arrive, the object descended and
either landed or hovered on our flightline and then took off again
at impossible speed. The witnesses to this event were threatened
and intimidated afterward. They were told to keep quiet and think
about what they were reporting.
After that, things did get quiet until about 2005 when another
patrol reported a massive triangular craft larger than a C–130 silently floating over the installation. He watched it for a few minutes. It traveled west and disappeared into the night.
And then I had my own encounter again in 2005. I was off duty
sitting in my backyard with two other police officers when we noticed what first appeared to be a satellite in orbit, but it was not
acting like a satellite. The light was strange, it was pulsing, and
then it started to maneuver. It dropped in elevation, at times it
would vanish from view and reappear in a different location in the
sky, and eventually it reappeared 200 feet over my house. It was
a 30-foot diameter sphere of light. My friends and I watched it for
a moment, and then it gently accelerated and traveled up and disappeared into the stars.
These events profoundly changed my life and the lives of my
friends. We stand at a pivotal moment in history. The question is
no longer whether these events are real, but whether we have the
courage to face them. True leadership requires vision, a willingness
to confront the unknown with transparency and resolve. So, I ask
the Congress to help we, the people, enact this vision.
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There are three goals: Fund independent research and treat UAP
study with the same seriousness as we would any other scientific
field.
Two, end secrecy and overclassification. Transparency is the
foundation of truth. Without it, witnesses like us are dismissed.
Three, protect the witnesses. Many stay silent out of fear for
their careers, reputations, and the safety of their families. Protect
them, and you will embolden others to join this cause.
These phenomena challenge our deepest assumptions about reality, consciousness, and our place in the universe. Exploring them
can unlock transformative breakthroughs in technology, biology,
and human understanding. Let this be the moment when America
chooses courage over fear, transparency over secrecy, and progress
over stagnation. Let us show the world that our Nation leads not
only through strength, but through fearless pursuit of the truth.
Thank you.
Mrs. LUNA. Thank you, Mr. Nuccetelli.
I now recognize Chief Wiggins for his opening statement. Please
press your button. Thank you.
STATEMENT OF ALEXANDRO WIGGINS, U.S. NAVY
Chief WIGGINS. Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking
Member Crockett, and Members of the Task Force and the Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today.
My name is Alexandro Wiggins. I am an active duty U.S. Navy
operations specialist, senior chief petty officer, father of three, and
dedicated American testifying today in my personal capacity. The
views I share are my own, and I do not represent the official positions of the Department of the Navy or any subordinate organization.
On the evening of February 15, 2023, at approximately 19:15
PST, in the Whiskey 291 warning area off the coast of southern
California, I was serving onboard USS Jackson. During that period, I moved between the Interior Communications Center, ICC–
1, and the bridge wing, correlating the sensor picture with visual
observations, part of my routine responsibilities for surface and air
picture management. What I observed and what our crew recorded
was not consistent with conventional aircraft or drones as they appeared on our system. A self-luminous tic-tac-shaped object
emerged from the ocean before linking up with three other similar
objects. The four then disappeared simultaneously with a high-synchronized, near-instantaneous acceleration.
I observed no sonic boom and no conventional propulsion signatures, no exhaust plume, no control surface articulation on the
SAFIRE image system. Shortly after the synchronized departure,
radar tracks dropped. These observations were multi-sensor and recorded inside of ICC–1 with time location overlay visible in our
source frames that have been made public by journalists.
From my experience operating in this region over many years
and consistent with our public characterized encounters, unidentified objects reoccur in United States operation areas off southern
California. That fact alone does not tell us what they are, but it
does argue the systematic stigma-free reporting and for the preser-
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vation of sensor data so analysts can evaluate safe and intelligence
implications with rigor.
I want to underscore three points for the Task Force and the
Committee. Aviation and maritime safety: When crews and
watchstanders observe objects that maneuver or accelerate in ways
that does not match known profiles and do not—and do so near our
ships and aircraft, that is first and foremost a safety issue. Standardized checklist and training should ensure we capture the best
possible sensor data in real time, including infrared (IR) settings,
slant range estimates, and bearing and range altitude snapshots
and immediate change of—chain of custody for any recordings.
Reporting without stigma, protection without retribution: Sailors
need to know that reporting UAP encounters will not harm their
careers. Congress can help by reinforcing witness protection and by
directing the relevant office to maintain confidential destigmatized
channels for servicemembers who step forward with data.
Declassification and transparency where possible: The Task
Force declassification mission is directly relevant here. Where operational security permits releasing metadata-preserved sensor excerpts or at least technical summaries would improve public trust
and accelerate outside scientific scrutiny. That includes, when feasible, the time geo-reference IR frames and radar parameters needed for independent analysis.
To be clear, I am not here to make claims beyond my lane. I am
here to provide a first-hand account of what I saw, what our systems recorded, and why I—why it matters for safety, for intelligence, and public confidence. My request to you is practical. Help
us capture, protect, fairly evaluate the evidence, and provide a safe
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